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the good news is the fbi has identified several suspects involved in the attack. the bad news is, libya has no one in custody and some of the people we identified may have even fled benghazi according to the "new york times." so much for the key players. as for the fringe players, an egyptian militant has been arrested in cairo with possible ties to the attack, but he hasn't been questioned by the u.s. and a tunisian man was arrested in october but he isn't considered a main suspect at this point, either. without a clear lead and without a whole lot of cooperation from the libyan government either, the fbi has now resorted to asking for tips on facebook and twitter. facebook and twitter in a quadruple murder case. "outfront" tonight, senator johnny isaacson. senator, thanks for being with us. it is never easy doing an investigation of this ilk on someone else's sovereign turf, but does this stand out? >> it does to me. your point is well taken. if they're looking to twitter and facebook three months later, they should have been on the ground within hours after the
the good news is the fbi has identified several suspects involved in the attack. the bad news is, libya has no one in custody and some of the people we identified may have even fled benghazi according to the "new york times." so much for the key players. as for the fringe players, an egyptian militant has been arrested in cairo with possible ties to the attack, but he hasn't been questioned by the u.s. and a tunisian man was arrested in october but he isn't considered a main suspect...
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fbi trying to cutoff with him. i think it will catch up with these individuals. >> greta: i hope they do. i do know the trail gets colder every day. often times we do catch up with people. we caught up with bin laden. i wish it looked more aggressive from the outside, like i said, from the outside. >> it's good to keep pressure up. it's good to keep spotlight on it. it's an important issue. that does have an impact. >> nice to see you sir. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, your last call, jay leno says more bad news about the so called end of the world. next. americans are always ready to work hard for a better future. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ a hybrid? most are just no fun to
fbi trying to cutoff with him. i think it will catch up with these individuals. >> greta: i hope they do. i do know the trail gets colder every day. often times we do catch up with people. we caught up with bin laden. i wish it looked more aggressive from the outside, like i said, from the outside. >> it's good to keep pressure up. it's good to keep spotlight on it. it's an important issue. that does have an impact. >> nice to see you sir. >> thank you. >> greta:...
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the fbi needs us because we're that link to the community. >> today the fbi honored the sisters with a prestigious community leadership award. and the pope is now tweeting. he sent seven messages so far. the first one said, dear friends, i am pleased to get in touch with you through twitter. i bless all of you from the bottom of my heart. the 85-year-old pope has almost two million twitter followers. >>> one vacaville man was charged more than two grand for long distance calls even though he has a free plan. the simple mistake that wound up costing him big-time. >> reporter: charges $2200 for his long distance. he had a plan with free international calls. but in april, he put his service on hold for three weeks while he moved. >> it was on the understanding that on the 15th of may my services would be resumed as normal. >> reporter: but when he resumed the same calls he always made to south africa, he was charged for each one, totaling $2200. he says vontage told him he had to pay because he never called to resume service. >> there was some sort of miscommunication, clearly. >> repor
the fbi needs us because we're that link to the community. >> today the fbi honored the sisters with a prestigious community leadership award. and the pope is now tweeting. he sent seven messages so far. the first one said, dear friends, i am pleased to get in touch with you through twitter. i bless all of you from the bottom of my heart. the 85-year-old pope has almost two million twitter followers. >>> one vacaville man was charged more than two grand for long distance calls...
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. >> still ahead another light lit in >>> in the abc 7 newsroom coming up at 6:00 the fbi sing yelz out an order of east bay nuns. the fight being taken on by sisters of the holly family. also, overcome with emotion in the east bay. gifts handed out today to-to-some people who really needed it. those stories and more coming up on abc 7 news tonight at 6:00. >> thank you. see you then. >> this is the fifth night of hanukkah. >> the festival of lights celebrated again tonight in san francisco with lighting of the union square men mora. >> the holiday celebrates the victory of a small group of ancient jews over a larger opponent. >> it lasts eight days because of the miracle of a small amount of oil that should not have provided light that long, but somehow, did. happy hanukkah, indeed. >> world news is coming up next. i'm cheryl jennings. >> from all of us here, thanks for watching. we appreciate your time we'll see you again at 6:00. >>> this is "world news." tonight, the shooter. we see the face of the 22-year-old who stole an assault rifle and fired at holiday shoppers in an oregon mal
. >> still ahead another light lit in >>> in the abc 7 newsroom coming up at 6:00 the fbi sing yelz out an order of east bay nuns. the fight being taken on by sisters of the holly family. also, overcome with emotion in the east bay. gifts handed out today to-to-some people who really needed it. those stories and more coming up on abc 7 news tonight at 6:00. >> thank you. see you then. >> this is the fifth night of hanukkah. >> the festival of lights celebrated...
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osama bin laden was under indictment as a result of an fbi investigation. yet we took him out with military means. that option is still available to -- to -- in case, as necessary. >> two things, one, in the new york times, reporting that libyan government was not particularly helpful in this -- you know, we had this issue about sovereignty, who gets to investigate and how much can we invade their sovereignty. the second thing, while the fbi has been the right people to investigate it. it happened on 9/11. they didn't get there until early october, which is grossly late. once there, they department pick up all the documents. foreignpolicy.com found documents the fbi didn't and they claimed they couldn't speak to the tunesian man in custody and didn't ask the president to call and ask tunisia to let the fbi to talk to him. it took a south carolina senator, lindsay graham to do that. the fbi may be doing a lot behind the scenes, but publicly, it is not that impressive. >> the delay of three weeks getting in there was because of the libyan government, dragging
osama bin laden was under indictment as a result of an fbi investigation. yet we took him out with military means. that option is still available to -- to -- in case, as necessary. >> two things, one, in the new york times, reporting that libyan government was not particularly helpful in this -- you know, we had this issue about sovereignty, who gets to investigate and how much can we invade their sovereignty. the second thing, while the fbi has been the right people to investigate it. it...
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that's after her statement, and one of the fbi interrogators who was successful in getting information from al qaeda detainees using noncoercive means has strongly criticized the cia's use of torture saying it didn't work. listen to what he says on "60 minutes" about what happened after a cia interrogator showed up to take over the questioning of one of the detainees he had been dealing with. let's watch. >> supposedly he's an expert in the field. so i asked him, do you know anything about islamic fundamentalism? he said no. have you ever interrogated anybody? no. he basically said no, he knows human nature. >> and how does he react to this? >> he basically stopped cooperating. >> the information dried up? >> yes, totally. >> frank, is that true? that he stopped talking after they start getting rough with him? >> i don't know enough about the particular case. i can't answer that. >> let me ask you generally about this. how is this going to come out? frank, you're a general columnist. i read you a couple times a week. how is this going to play with most people, liberals and everyone, wh
that's after her statement, and one of the fbi interrogators who was successful in getting information from al qaeda detainees using noncoercive means has strongly criticized the cia's use of torture saying it didn't work. listen to what he says on "60 minutes" about what happened after a cia interrogator showed up to take over the questioning of one of the detainees he had been dealing with. let's watch. >> supposedly he's an expert in the field. so i asked him, do you know...
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. >> clint van zandt, former fbi profiler. thank you for joining me. we've been covering the breaking news that shots were fired at the clackamas town center mall near portland, oregon, earlier today. roughly about 3:30 in the afternoon pacific time. at this time we have confirmation that three people are dead, including the gunman. one person is wounded. witnesses say the gunman worked with a semiautomatic rifle. the rachel maddow show picks up after this. >>> good evening. i'm ezra klein. rachel maddow has the night off. we begin tonight with an update on the breaking news in the pacific northwest, the terrifying scene that unfolded earlier tonight at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. a gunman with what witnesses describe as a rifle opening fire on holiday shoppers. two people were killed. the shooter also killed, and one person has been seriously injured according to the sheriff's department. an eyewitness who had been browsing the watch counter inside macy's described the scene to our portland, oregon affiliate kgw tv. >> constant boom, boom, bo
. >> clint van zandt, former fbi profiler. thank you for joining me. we've been covering the breaking news that shots were fired at the clackamas town center mall near portland, oregon, earlier today. roughly about 3:30 in the afternoon pacific time. at this time we have confirmation that three people are dead, including the gunman. one person is wounded. witnesses say the gunman worked with a semiautomatic rifle. the rachel maddow show picks up after this. >>> good evening. i'm...
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just as importantly with the national trend terrorism task force centers around the country of the fbi. we know they understand the operating characteristics necessary to have a freight and passenger work together. we have had a 40 year partnership with them to read we are concerned about what the current contracts are, the current labor agreements out there. how would all of that be handled if the amtrak inner-city network were parceled out to other operators brest mark i am inferring from your question that you will be perhaps -- operators. i am inferring from your question that you would -- >> that is very good. >> that would be a major problem. not only for our current employees but retirees. the repast real retirement can years ago, the system is already upside-down 6 to 1. 6 retirees per 1 employee. if the work force were not part of the railroad retirement system, the system would perhaps not be enough to maintain the necessary payments to retirees. but under the law passed 10 years ago, there is an automatic increase in taxes on current employees up to 2.49% of the payroll and
just as importantly with the national trend terrorism task force centers around the country of the fbi. we know they understand the operating characteristics necessary to have a freight and passenger work together. we have had a 40 year partnership with them to read we are concerned about what the current contracts are, the current labor agreements out there. how would all of that be handled if the amtrak inner-city network were parceled out to other operators brest mark i am inferring from...
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feet below the surface, the coast guard feared they would try to retrieve the lost treasure, so the fbi's dive team was called. >> part of the whole mission is to get the drugs here to our country. so to leave them here would have left the job unfinished, so to speak. >> reporter: wearing underwater cameras, tim and his team cut into the submarine, finding the cocaine wrapped in waterproof pa packets. now the drug runners are turning to a more sophisticated harder-to-detect vessel. they have found them along rivers that connect to the sea. coast guard commander tom walsh worries about them with that kind of technology. it's one thing to move cocaine, and that's a problem. >> reporter: couldn't someone use a submersible for terrorist activity or arms running? >> that's a big concern of ours. it would be perfect for terrorists wanting to move people or equipment or other items toward the united states. >> reporter: as for the men who jumped off the semi-submersible sub, they were arrested in the united states. >>> coming up after your local news on "cbs this morning," new details about the
feet below the surface, the coast guard feared they would try to retrieve the lost treasure, so the fbi's dive team was called. >> part of the whole mission is to get the drugs here to our country. so to leave them here would have left the job unfinished, so to speak. >> reporter: wearing underwater cameras, tim and his team cut into the submarine, finding the cocaine wrapped in waterproof pa packets. now the drug runners are turning to a more sophisticated harder-to-detect vessel....
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right down the road is the quantico training center for the fbi. >> reporter: the fbi headquarters downtown has a hyper-security focus. it creates a dead space along pennsylvania avenue just blocks from the capitol. now that the fbi is looking to move to a bigger and better space, regional business leaders say there's new hope the dead fbi block can be rebuilt with businesses, condos, retail and night life. >> this would be a very big shot in the arm to downtown washington to better utilize that space, and god help us, not that building. >> not that building. the federal government is just in the early stages of deciding the fbi's future. so all three jurisdictions are negotiating, hoping for, trying to work out ways they can get it. and the skins is just a little part of it. >> hope is the key word, i guess. >> everybody has to have hope in this holiday season. >> thank you, tom. >> merry christmas, tom. >>> three, two, one! >> star-studded night down on the ellipse tonight, not to mention the twinkling with the christmas lights just a few minutes ago. the first family lit the national chr
right down the road is the quantico training center for the fbi. >> reporter: the fbi headquarters downtown has a hyper-security focus. it creates a dead space along pennsylvania avenue just blocks from the capitol. now that the fbi is looking to move to a bigger and better space, regional business leaders say there's new hope the dead fbi block can be rebuilt with businesses, condos, retail and night life. >> this would be a very big shot in the arm to downtown washington to better...
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clint van zandt is a former fbi profiler and joins me right now. clint you have some new details about what we learned through this press conference? >> well, i think a number of things, thomas. as you just shared, we know the number of dead and wounded now, unfortunately. we also know in any type of large traumatic situations like this, the phone lines, cell phone lines go down very quickly. and i think one of the things you learn from a situation like that is that if you're involved, if you're near that and you can't get a phone call out, immediately try to text anyone you want to contact. you can normally get through if you use your phone for texting purposes, even though it won't function as a cell phone. now, we know the likelihood that police had to respond to an active shooter. as one of your previous guests indicated, this is something we learned after columbine high school that shooting there. there was a time when law enforcement would show up at the scene of an active shooter. they would wait the 15, 30, 45 minutes until s.w.a.t. might g
clint van zandt is a former fbi profiler and joins me right now. clint you have some new details about what we learned through this press conference? >> well, i think a number of things, thomas. as you just shared, we know the number of dead and wounded now, unfortunately. we also know in any type of large traumatic situations like this, the phone lines, cell phone lines go down very quickly. and i think one of the things you learn from a situation like that is that if you're involved, if...
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what i learned working undercover with the fbi was that these groups oftentimes are supported by the moderate left of center groups. and they are oftentimes protected by them in the media after they get caught by law enforcement. >> that's a fascinating thing, steve, because remember we had the guy deaf -- deficating on the police car and a rape tent set up for women because of the rapes taking place, and it was a really radical movement. we saw violence in cities across america in anything that represented a financial institution. so there is this real radical element out there. how widespread is it? >> it's very widespread. remember the reason andrew bright bark wanted to do the film and the reason they decide today do it and have people like lee from breitbart who wrote the article that this tape was found in and darby, guys who were radicals inside the movement is because the underpinning ofs of the movement is confrontational and add cal. they are using this as a recruitment tool. they are proud of it. they are not conservatives, they are liberals. they mock liberals who are not
what i learned working undercover with the fbi was that these groups oftentimes are supported by the moderate left of center groups. and they are oftentimes protected by them in the media after they get caught by law enforcement. >> that's a fascinating thing, steve, because remember we had the guy deaf -- deficating on the police car and a rape tent set up for women because of the rapes taking place, and it was a really radical movement. we saw violence in cities across america in...
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. >> fbi agents carried out two raids in arlington. the first was in rosslyn possibly targeting the university of management and technology. academic dean explains his town house was also raided. fbi agents refused to say what they were looking for. no charges have been filed. >> a bank employee makes an expose of discovery. detectives tell us that someone set off an explosive device on an atm machine. this happened at the bridge in a credit union on gordon sheldon boulevard. we are live with the attempt to steal hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars. >> we have seen chris the attempt to steal atms. -- crzy attempts to steal atms. this one also failed. >> for clock. i heard boom. >> this virginia credit union atm has a hole in the back and an error message on the screen but all in all does not look too bad considering someone tried to blow it up this morning. >> allow bank. -- a loud bang. >> i thought a gas line exploded. >> album. , people evacuated amid fears. there was no further danger. >> the damage atm is in an area near 95 and r
. >> fbi agents carried out two raids in arlington. the first was in rosslyn possibly targeting the university of management and technology. academic dean explains his town house was also raided. fbi agents refused to say what they were looking for. no charges have been filed. >> a bank employee makes an expose of discovery. detectives tell us that someone set off an explosive device on an atm machine. this happened at the bridge in a credit union on gordon sheldon boulevard. we are...
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from around the area are assisting, the atf, the fbi, and also the local police agencies. we thank them for their assistance and we will rely on them for the future. the family members that were witnesses that we want to contact5036558211 if you saw something? we would like to hear from you. there is a lot of speculation going on on what happened what the circumstances were. and the act it shooter situation and the intense situation like this can get perceive to many different ways it tend to go saw the same incident and the rookie 10 different versions. wheat, as law investment officers are trying to make a piece of an idea of what actually occurred. not based on speculation. we have it tentatively identified the shooter at this time courthousthe is an adult male. e were not going to release the name and to 100% confirm the identity. the investigation will go on throughout the night with a command post. if you feel capable of coming back to the light rail platform to be interviewed and if you've not been interviewed yet? you can be interviewed there. if you do not feel up
from around the area are assisting, the atf, the fbi, and also the local police agencies. we thank them for their assistance and we will rely on them for the future. the family members that were witnesses that we want to contact5036558211 if you saw something? we would like to hear from you. there is a lot of speculation going on on what happened what the circumstances were. and the act it shooter situation and the intense situation like this can get perceive to many different ways it tend to...
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the fbi wants to leave its current facility in d.c. prince george's county would have to let the redskins break their lease at fedex field to move. county executive rushern baker says he isn't discussing the proposed trade. >> i wonder if that is going to happen. >> that would be something. >> a lot of people have called for the redskins to be in washington because it's in washington. >> that's a big deal. that's not something that can happen really quickly. we're coming up on 4:51. time to get a check of weather and traffic on the ones. take a look at that. >> storm team 4 meteorologist chuck bell with more on what we can expect today. chuck, good morning to you. how is it looking out there? >>> an awful lot of cloud cover out there this morning. good morning to both of you. and a good friday morning to everyone out there in the news 4 nation. cloudy this morning, yes, indeed. a little light rain across the area as well. temperatures comfortably above the freezing mark. that's one of the most important things in the early morning fore
the fbi wants to leave its current facility in d.c. prince george's county would have to let the redskins break their lease at fedex field to move. county executive rushern baker says he isn't discussing the proposed trade. >> i wonder if that is going to happen. >> that would be something. >> a lot of people have called for the redskins to be in washington because it's in washington. >> that's a big deal. that's not something that can happen really quickly. we're coming...
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the fbi has run 350,000 more of its instant background checks than in all of last year. abc news expects almost 2 million more gun checks just this month. >>> and call it easy bake backlash. a new jersey girl's campaign to make the toy more gender-neutral appears successful. 13-year-old mckenna pope says the easy bake oven should be made in colors other than pink and purple, to appeal to boys like her brother. some top male television chefs have posted a video in support. and the toy company is planning to meet with her. i don't know if i'm not remembering this correctly. but i swear mine was blue. >> really? >> yes. >> i'm sure you still have it. >> i could find out. >> check when you get home. >>> new york police revealed there is video from that point-blank murder that shook midtown manhattan. >>> and monkey business. an update on that adorable, little guy wandering around an ikea in his coat. the next chapter, not so cute. ♪ ♪ i woke up to a feeling ♪ every little thing has meaning ♪ ♪ i woke up to a light bulb on ♪ every little thing is possible now ♪
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the fbi wants to leave its current facility in downtown d.c. d.c. council members won't discuss the details of the potential trade, but they do say they're interested. >> the idea of a switch for the fbi moving to prince george's county and, say, the redskins moving back to the city in a brand new stadium at rfk would be something that i would certainly be interested in. >> prince george's county would have to let the redskins break their lease at fedex field to move. county executive rushern baker says he isn't discussing this possible trade. >>> it will be longer before we learn who will represent one prince george's county district in the state assembly. waiting a judge's decision over the battle for the seat. that means controversial greg hall is still the nominee. he has been trying to take over the seat from tiffany alston, who was removed from office. alston claims she should be the delegate still since her sentence was reduced before judgment. >>> d.c. mayor vincent gray will discuss a flood project for many blooi -- bloomingdale. if will pu
the fbi wants to leave its current facility in downtown d.c. d.c. council members won't discuss the details of the potential trade, but they do say they're interested. >> the idea of a switch for the fbi moving to prince george's county and, say, the redskins moving back to the city in a brand new stadium at rfk would be something that i would certainly be interested in. >> prince george's county would have to let the redskins break their lease at fedex field to move. county...
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he was the fbi's negotiator in multiple high profile bank hostage standoffs. he says he peacefully freed dozens of hostages over his 20 years with the agency. he negotiated seemingly impossible deals and says he never lost a life. you have to plan for everything going wrong as a negotiator. >> yeah. you've got to be ready for it and to deal with it. and you've got to be flexible. >> reporter: but not too flexible. the lawyer for hollywood heavyweights like harvey weinstei james cameron, and tom cruise knows about ugly divorces, public fights with studios, and yes, fair deals. >> at what point is it better to have no deal than the deal that's being offered? >> reporter: do you have an appreciation for what obama and boehner are looking at? >> oh, absolutely. i sympathize with both of them. it's not fun for these guys because there's too much at stake. it's fun for me because the worst that happens is my client gets less money, not the end of the world. it may seem that way for the client. >> reporter: even children know you have to cooperate. >> maybe you can w
he was the fbi's negotiator in multiple high profile bank hostage standoffs. he says he peacefully freed dozens of hostages over his 20 years with the agency. he negotiated seemingly impossible deals and says he never lost a life. you have to plan for everything going wrong as a negotiator. >> yeah. you've got to be ready for it and to deal with it. and you've got to be flexible. >> reporter: but not too flexible. the lawyer for hollywood heavyweights like harvey weinstei james...
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when john was the fbi spokesman, he was often not helpful, but you could always get him on the phone and if you had a good story he could confirm it by laughing. a deep laugh men you were on the right track. no laughter meant, no. >> it looks like the tide is very much going against republicans. do you agree with that? >> welle, no, quite frankly. if i think in the short, political term, yes. the polling shows republicans will be blamed. but remember, this is the obama- era. it will go down as his economy. i ask people, who was speaker of the house during the great depression when roosevelt was president. i will give $100 to anyone who can name to the speaker of the house was in that critical first 100 days. henry thomas are rainey. there is a name that is in the history books. the point of being that speaker bay near -- speaker john boehner is an important player, but it is obama's job to lead and the fine. if there are negative consequences here, it will be in the obama-era that things did not get fixed. who is the australian finance minister who says we are deep -- the united stat
when john was the fbi spokesman, he was often not helpful, but you could always get him on the phone and if you had a good story he could confirm it by laughing. a deep laugh men you were on the right track. no laughter meant, no. >> it looks like the tide is very much going against republicans. do you agree with that? >> welle, no, quite frankly. if i think in the short, political term, yes. the polling shows republicans will be blamed. but remember, this is the obama- era. it will...
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the fbi set found about 300 internet searches for leas name found on as the bonds computer. she was arrested after dna and cell phone records winter to the murder. investigators say as the bomb blame is laid for ruining her relationship with her daughter's father. is believe that both women were interested in the same man. order open plays have voted to ratify a four year contract agreement reached after 24 hours strike last month that disrupted port operations. the tentative agreement it agreement includes a cost-of-living raise over the next two years. a sighting of is also for each employee. the two sides of the bargaining unsuccessfully since july 200011. there will not be voting >> they will not be voting on the sutter health $2 billion hospital project in san francisco any time soon. the board of supervisors have pressed on the vote until next year. the proposal to build the 555 bed hospital of van ness ave hit a roadblock when naso could not commit to keeping st. louis hospital open the vote for the hospital project was good for tomorrow. >> a surveillance pictures of
the fbi set found about 300 internet searches for leas name found on as the bonds computer. she was arrested after dna and cell phone records winter to the murder. investigators say as the bomb blame is laid for ruining her relationship with her daughter's father. is believe that both women were interested in the same man. order open plays have voted to ratify a four year contract agreement reached after 24 hours strike last month that disrupted port operations. the tentative agreement it...
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the fbi and atf assisted in this investigation and they are here going through, looking at everything that happened inside. they're looking at surveillance video trying to piece together exactly what happened. again the gunman turned gun on himself and killed himself after shooting three people inside the mall yesterday, megyn? megyn: dan, is there any discussion of why the casualty number, thankfully, was not higher if he managed to get off 17 shots? it sounds like he managed to shoot three people, right? two died, one critically injured? >> reporter: right. let me tell you what we've been hearing from some of the witnesses. it is pretty consistent that the guy shot a couple times, first couple rounds. there was a little bit of a pause. and then the rest of the 15 or 18 shots. so did he go in there looking for somebody and shooting them? we don't know. of course we're going to hear at the news conference hopefully very soon. but as far as you know what he did, he calmly walked we are told down the main stem of the mall after shooting those initial two victims and shooting indiscrimmi
the fbi and atf assisted in this investigation and they are here going through, looking at everything that happened inside. they're looking at surveillance video trying to piece together exactly what happened. again the gunman turned gun on himself and killed himself after shooting three people inside the mall yesterday, megyn? megyn: dan, is there any discussion of why the casualty number, thankfully, was not higher if he managed to get off 17 shots? it sounds like he managed to shoot three...
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we do know, for example, the fbi looks to question a tunisian suspect. but after finally getting him face to face, he refused to speak. that's one suspect. abu ahmed is another. we don't know what role the five others in his alleged terror cell may have played in all of this. don? >> susan, thank you very much. >>> marijuana smokers gathered around seattle's space needle counting down the seconds until the first legal puff of pot. >> three, two, one. hold on a second before you go all cheech and chong on us. you can smoke pot legally in washington state, but still illegal to buy marijuana or sell it or grow it. that's interesting. >>> a legal haze is drifting over washington state's pot smokers as joe johns reports. no one knows how the feds are going to react. >> reporter: there was euphoria the moment pot became legal in washington state. 3,000 miles away in washington, d.c., the justice department and the white house are reviewing how the federal government should respond. at the moment, they're sticking to this statement from the u.s. attorney in sea
we do know, for example, the fbi looks to question a tunisian suspect. but after finally getting him face to face, he refused to speak. that's one suspect. abu ahmed is another. we don't know what role the five others in his alleged terror cell may have played in all of this. don? >> susan, thank you very much. >>> marijuana smokers gathered around seattle's space needle counting down the seconds until the first legal puff of pot. >> three, two, one. hold on a second before...
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put that in the fbi file. >> okay. >> thanks. >> stephanie: okay. >> the fbi are a bunch of liberals! >> stephanie: okay. i think i should cleanse my pallet with an actual love letter. this from tim [ romantic muse ] >> stephanie: stephanie i thought it was great when we got a progressive radio station, now the station is all sports. i was devastated until i found you on current tv. i knew you had to be a fox, but i had no idea you were so alluring. i have a huge fantasy, where you and i are intertwined on a bed of your palatial hollywood home. don't laugh. we're obviously basking in the after glow of an epic grope. don't judge me. as you narrate a series of today's political blogs. i lovingly pull back a hank of sweaty hair from your alabaster neck. >> a hank? >> stephanie: let me finish. and despite the fact that my tongue is numb from quivering, and whispering sweet obamas in your ear. >> wow, that was nice . . . er than the other ones. >> stephanie: wow. >> hannity doesn't get letters like that. >> wow. >> stephanie: a hank of hair? >> maybe he meant hunk. >> stephanie: no. here i
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one of the ways that we've been doing that is similar to what the fbi does in terms to having a national database of fingerprints of criminals. anytime one of those bugs is isolated, either from a human stool sample or from a food product, what happens is it goes into a network of laboratories that are capable of performing the fingerprints, using standardized methodology. changes in how food is grown and handled, increased international travel, people crammed togethe in uanitary nditions-- all contribute to the emergence of these new and deadlier microbes, but there is another critical factor. david bennett: we now have the threat that our major tools, the antibiotics that we can treat bacterial infections, are being compromised. there's a lot of resistance to antibiotics, both in hospitals and communities, so we're very worried about what will happen there. and this means increased cost, and it also means in some cases we can't effectively treat some infections, or it's much more difficult to treat. stephen ostroff: so rapidly we have watched one after the next after the next of the ea
one of the ways that we've been doing that is similar to what the fbi does in terms to having a national database of fingerprints of criminals. anytime one of those bugs is isolated, either from a human stool sample or from a food product, what happens is it goes into a network of laboratories that are capable of performing the fingerprints, using standardized methodology. changes in how food is grown and handled, increased international travel, people crammed togethe in uanitary nditions-- all...
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he said the fbi has not questioned him about this case to this point. brooke? >> all right. on miami beach, thanks, john. >> chelsea roth nearly dieda a teenager from an eating disorder and now teaches yoga at workshops across the country. in this week's human factor, we see how she turned her life around. >> how are you? >> when you see chelsea roth now, looking happy and vibrant, it's nearly impossible to imagine the day she said part of her brain died. at 15 years old, she suffered a stroke brought on by severe anorexia. >> i now know from looking at hospital records i was 58 pounds. >> 58 pounds and close to dying. so many parts of her body were failing. there no pictures of her at her sickest. this picture is from about a year earlier in and out of treatment centers. she remembers how starting a diet with her mom in the midst of a difficult and dangerous childhood spiralled into a disorder that nearly killed her. >> looking back, i think my body was my only way to tell the people around me that something wasn't okay. i was scare and hurting and i needed help. >> help ca
he said the fbi has not questioned him about this case to this point. brooke? >> all right. on miami beach, thanks, john. >> chelsea roth nearly dieda a teenager from an eating disorder and now teaches yoga at workshops across the country. in this week's human factor, we see how she turned her life around. >> how are you? >> when you see chelsea roth now, looking happy and vibrant, it's nearly impossible to imagine the day she said part of her brain died. at 15 years...
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i'm pretty sure that by the time this thing really got rolling, we probably had the fbi on the property also because there's always that concern of potential terrorism. other agencies, bomb squads, possibly atf. >> 3:29 local time this afternoon is when the calls started to come in or when the shooting, we believe began, 6:27 local time. we talked to an affiliate who said she witnessed the shooter who she described as jogging through the macy's. she believed he may have entered through a back way at macy's and jogged past her with what seemed to be a semiautomatic rifle, ar-15, then opened fire. once he left macy's in the food court area where many stores enter into. a lot of people were, sadly, in a position to see and hear this nightmare unfold. we're starting to get more and more eyewitnesses here. i want to bring in christina fisher, she spoke with local affiliate koin. let's listen. >> i was walking on the lower level heading from the west end toward the east end of the mall under the food court. all of a sudden i heard something similar to a .22 poppinging probably eight times. an
i'm pretty sure that by the time this thing really got rolling, we probably had the fbi on the property also because there's always that concern of potential terrorism. other agencies, bomb squads, possibly atf. >> 3:29 local time this afternoon is when the calls started to come in or when the shooting, we believe began, 6:27 local time. we talked to an affiliate who said she witnessed the shooter who she described as jogging through the macy's. she believed he may have entered through a...
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officials are proposing an unusual trade, offering to support the fbi moving to prince george's county if the redskins would move back to washington. the fbi wants a larger facility than the one on pennsylvania avenue, the one it's been in for many years. d.c. maryland and virginia all battling over who would get the facility. prince george's county would have to allow the redskins to break their lease to move back to the district. county executive rashon baker says he's not in talks to talk about a possible swap. >>> next on news4, toppled trees and damage scattered for miles. see the dramatic video as a tornado touches down in new zealand. >>> a growing mystery after animals were attacked on a local farm. >>> new feature on facebook, >>> a rare tornado rolled through new zealand's largest city. three people killed, 250 others or more had to be evacuated from homes. the tornado hit the suburb of auckland today, dozens of buildings destroyed and massive power outages. officials say this is it the deadliest tornado to hit the region in more than 60 years. >>> tonight police are looking
officials are proposing an unusual trade, offering to support the fbi moving to prince george's county if the redskins would move back to washington. the fbi wants a larger facility than the one on pennsylvania avenue, the one it's been in for many years. d.c. maryland and virginia all battling over who would get the facility. prince george's county would have to allow the redskins to break their lease to move back to the district. county executive rashon baker says he's not in talks to talk...
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the fbi is assisting us, all of our local police agencies. we thank them for their assistance now and we will be relying on them in the near future, as well. the family members or witnesses who want to contact us call 503-655-8211. if you saw something or know something about this incident, firsthand, we want to hear from you. there's a lot of speculation going on about what happened, what the circumstances were, and the active shooter situations intense situations like this get perceived many ways. you get ten people who saw the same incident and they will give you ten versions of it. we, as law enforcement officers, our job is to collect all of the information and make it in to a cohesive idea of what actually occurred, not report based on the speculation. we have tentatively identified the shooter at this time. we will not release his name or any other information other than he's an adult male until we have 100% confirmed that identity. the investigation will go on throughout the night. we have a command post set up over there. if you are
the fbi is assisting us, all of our local police agencies. we thank them for their assistance now and we will be relying on them in the near future, as well. the family members or witnesses who want to contact us call 503-655-8211. if you saw something or know something about this incident, firsthand, we want to hear from you. there's a lot of speculation going on about what happened, what the circumstances were, and the active shooter situations intense situations like this get perceived many...
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they didn't send the fbi until what was it, you were all over t. five weeks after the hit on september 11th. the fbi was still not on site. it's all just bizarre. >> that's why we need anna wintour. let's put her in charge of the investigation. maybe she'll get the answers. at least she'll be dressed well. >> tell me about your radio show. what's up with that? >> a lot of great speculation. a bit of a high day tus hiatus. i'll announce what i'm doing in the next couple of days. >> everyone, calm down. they're like you've abandoned us. i haven't abandoned us. >> you haven't given us any notice. >> i like to keep people guessing, greta. one minute it will be santorum in a sweater vest. the next thing it will be muppets. >> greta, you know my xylophone career. i got rejected from the boston pops and the symphony. ed it was my first love. if i didn' doesn't work out, i'k to the radio. >> any chance it's th it's tv? >> i'm not going to say anything about it. >> that was sort of an unusual -- >> this is my tv gig, greta. radio is my love right after mode
they didn't send the fbi until what was it, you were all over t. five weeks after the hit on september 11th. the fbi was still not on site. it's all just bizarre. >> that's why we need anna wintour. let's put her in charge of the investigation. maybe she'll get the answers. at least she'll be dressed well. >> tell me about your radio show. what's up with that? >> a lot of great speculation. a bit of a high day tus hiatus. i'll announce what i'm doing in the next couple of...
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. >>> coming up on news4 at 5:00, a news4 exclusive about the future of the new fbi headquarters. tom sherwood tells us what could get the district to back the plan to put it in prince george's county. >>> searching for the man who tried to bomb that atm in virginia. we have new pictures from surveillance video. >>> news4 your health, the uv lights are unlikely to cause skin cancer, according to a new study. the study contradicts the feeling of many derm tolss who say the devices are as harmful as tanning beds. researchers at brown university measured the radiation from typical nail lamps and determined you would have to use the lamp every week for 250 years in order for it to pose any real cancer risk. still, doctors say they should use uv radiation not too often. >>> talk about a show of true sportsmanship. jerrod stevens is part of his school's wrestling team in tennessee. he has cerebral palsy. he was matched up against 13-year-old justin. after the two wrestlers shook hands, justin got down on the mat, grabbed his arm and he got the pin and win. that moment was spontaneous an
. >>> coming up on news4 at 5:00, a news4 exclusive about the future of the new fbi headquarters. tom sherwood tells us what could get the district to back the plan to put it in prince george's county. >>> searching for the man who tried to bomb that atm in virginia. we have new pictures from surveillance video. >>> news4 your health, the uv lights are unlikely to cause skin cancer, according to a new study. the study contradicts the feeling of many derm tolss who say...
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talk about 3000 fbi employees. it talked about a head start programs -- 100,000 fewer children been involved -- and rolled. it took about women's health programs. about 45,000 low-income women would heard that, and a nutrition program, about 900,000 would lose out, and about 16,000 fewer teachers. host: here are some others from bloomberg news -- national institutes of health, to $0.5 billion. after the been gauzy thing, that could be cut. -- libya thing, that could be cut. guest: they're trying to put some of the embassy money back, i just read. i have heard that the sequestration cuts would be the equivalent of shutting down parks. that would be something people would notice. host: both sides are trying to come up with a compromise. with the republicans want to do? -- what do the republicans want to do? guest: they have more emphasis on spending cuts, in john boehner has come up with a $2 trillion planned over 10 years, and offered $800 billion in revenue he would like to get from tax reform, broadening the base,
talk about 3000 fbi employees. it talked about a head start programs -- 100,000 fewer children been involved -- and rolled. it took about women's health programs. about 45,000 low-income women would heard that, and a nutrition program, about 900,000 would lose out, and about 16,000 fewer teachers. host: here are some others from bloomberg news -- national institutes of health, to $0.5 billion. after the been gauzy thing, that could be cut. -- libya thing, that could be cut. guest: they're...
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the fbi wants to leave its current facility in downtown d.c. >> the idea of a switch for the fbi moving to prince george's county and, say, the redskins moving back to the city in a brand new stadium at rfk would be something i would certainly be interested in. >> prince george's county would have to let the redskins break their lease at fedex field to move. county executive rushern baker says he isn't discussing the proposed trade. >>> 6:55 now. imagine a football game starting without a kickoff. imagine a game without a kickoff at all. the nfl is considering the idea. the league's competition committee will look at doing away with kickoffs during the off-season. teams would get the ball at their own 30 yard line in a fourth and 15 situation. they could punt the ball away or try to go for it. that would replace the onside kick. kickoffs are considered among the most dangerous plays in football. let us know what you think about this idea on the news 4 today facebook page. the game wouldn't seem the same if you didn't have a kickoff. it marks the beginning. i can understand why it's dang
the fbi wants to leave its current facility in downtown d.c. >> the idea of a switch for the fbi moving to prince george's county and, say, the redskins moving back to the city in a brand new stadium at rfk would be something i would certainly be interested in. >> prince george's county would have to let the redskins break their lease at fedex field to move. county executive rushern baker says he isn't discussing the proposed trade. >>> 6:55 now. imagine a football game...
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. >> is the fbi making progress? >> you know, don, it is hard to tell. our sources are saying they're linked to a lot of people. they're questioning a tunisian suspect, alharzi refused to speak. that is one source, abu ahmad, he is another one, we don't know the role he may have played, and five others in the alleged terror cell, what they have to do, if anything at all. in the benghazi attacks. we hope to learn more about it in the coming days. >> have fbi agents been able to get access to this guy? >> no, they're still trying to do that. they have had trouble getting access to others in other countries. there is always difficulty in helping out the united states in many of these investigations because of the impression it might leave with some of the countries over there. but they have been working on it and continue to do it. i am sure a lot of pressure will be brought to bear. >> appreciate your reporting, susan candiotti. >>> and egypt's president, learning how difficult democracy is. thousands took to the streets after the decree that was issued gi
. >> is the fbi making progress? >> you know, don, it is hard to tell. our sources are saying they're linked to a lot of people. they're questioning a tunisian suspect, alharzi refused to speak. that is one source, abu ahmad, he is another one, we don't know the role he may have played, and five others in the alleged terror cell, what they have to do, if anything at all. in the benghazi attacks. we hope to learn more about it in the coming days. >> have fbi agents been able to...
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retired submarine warfare specialist try to give information on how to track u.s.submarines to undercover fbi agents claiming to be representatives of the russian federation. >> police say clarence tailored touched girls when they attended school between 2008 and 2010. they go to another school now. he is facing three melanie charges -- felony charges. president obama will be focusing on laws protecting children. this law doubles the maximum sentence for people convicted of possessing -- of possessing child pornography. it also adds more layers of protection for victims. >> 45 days -- 25 days from the fiscal cliff. >> the fiscal cliff is still three weeks away, but the economy may have already taken a hit. economists predict that the monthly jobs report will show that employers added more than -- less than 100,000 jobs in november. superstorm sandy may be part of the reason, but worry over the fiscal cliff may have also had an impact. economists predict that perhaps 200,000 jobs that you're -- 200,000 fewer jobs were created this year because of worries over the pasqual. republicans and democ
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they cite several people familiar with the fbi probe into gray's campaign who say city employees and contractors were promised that their contributions would not be reported. that is against city campaign finance laws. the unreported donations are separate from what investigators call an illegal shadow campaign that raised more than $600,000 for gray. >>> the brother of former d.c. council chairman kwame brown is facing bank fraud charges, the same charge that led brown to resign his council seat. he made false claims about his income on a mortgage loan application in 2010. his attorney says that brown plans to plead guilty. che brown also pled guilty to a similar charge in 1995. >>> invasion of privacy or creative marketing? that's the question behind new technology that verizon is working on. according to a patent application, the company is trying to create a device like a dvr that can record your every move. the idea is to cater tv ads specifically to you. but some say the device crosses the line, and nbc technology contributor says users will always have the option to turn off t
they cite several people familiar with the fbi probe into gray's campaign who say city employees and contractors were promised that their contributions would not be reported. that is against city campaign finance laws. the unreported donations are separate from what investigators call an illegal shadow campaign that raised more than $600,000 for gray. >>> the brother of former d.c. council chairman kwame brown is facing bank fraud charges, the same charge that led brown to resign his...
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now is michigan congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee, also a former fbi agent. thanks for being with us. what is the significance and what do we know about the success of this, because there had been prior attempts, all failures, but this one seems to have worked. >> it seems to have worked according to plan and maybe worked beyond what we expected and maybe even what the north koreans expected. this puts them clearly on a path, you know, there's that three-legged stool of trying to get a nuclear weapon you can deliver some place and detonate. the mission portion of that is a very important portion of that, so this is a very serious, very provocative steps, certainly in violation of u.n. resolutions, and this is a big moment for the international community. and i would specify china about their ability to step up and engage and change the mind of north korea on its pursuit of a nuclear weapon program that can weaponize it, put it on the top of a missile, and fire it some place. >> how concerned are we right now about a nuclear test, another nuclear test,
now is michigan congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee, also a former fbi agent. thanks for being with us. what is the significance and what do we know about the success of this, because there had been prior attempts, all failures, but this one seems to have worked. >> it seems to have worked according to plan and maybe worked beyond what we expected and maybe even what the north koreans expected. this puts them clearly on a path, you know, there's that...
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. >>> two fbi raids in arlington today. officers searched the seventh floor of a building in the 1900 block of fort meyer drive that houses the university of management and technology, a private university. it offers associate, bachelor and master degree programs. cardboard has been placed on the university's windows. officers also searched a town home on 21st road in arlington. the fbi confirms it did serve two search warrants. it will not say what it is looking for. >>> police in virginia think somebody wanted the money in an atm and set a bomb to get it. the blast in fredericksburg, virginia, this morning did not do anything to the cash machine at virginia credit union, except give it a few burn marks. a bomb squad technician checked out the scene to make sure it was safe. the bank stayed open all day. police say there is surveillance video of the incident from about 4:00 this morning. they have not made any arrests at this point. >>> gang violence may be responsible for the murder of a teenager in prince george's county
. >>> two fbi raids in arlington today. officers searched the seventh floor of a building in the 1900 block of fort meyer drive that houses the university of management and technology, a private university. it offers associate, bachelor and master degree programs. cardboard has been placed on the university's windows. officers also searched a town home on 21st road in arlington. the fbi confirms it did serve two search warrants. it will not say what it is looking for. >>>...
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hoffman delivered that information to fbi agents posing as an undercover operation. >> that was andy fox reporting. >>> now for a look at your friday weather, nicks meteorologist dylan dreyer is here with the forecast. it happens to be our favorite one. >> i know. it is a good day but, yeah, you know, yesterday was so much colder than it has been. we're actually starting to see a pattern shift here. we are going to see colder air start to work in behind this cold front that is bringing a whole lot of rain through portions of the great lakes through the ohio river valley. basically the country is split in half. the northern part of the country is seeing all this messy weather mostly in the form of rain but the southern half of the country, minus a couple of clouds, really not seeing too much of anything. in fact, most of our warm temperatures are down through the gulf coast states as well. this cold front is going to move through and produce some rain showers eventually in the northeast a little bit later on today. right now most of the heavier rain is in eastern ohio moving into the
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. >>> the fbi says it used facebook to help track down and bust a ring of international cyber criminals that infected 11 million computers, leading to $850 million in losses. >>> and speaking of facebook, the social network has landed in the top spot in an annual employees choice survey for the best place to work. workers praised facebook's fun culture and they also apparently give large responsibilities to folks relatively early in their careers. >>> well, just ahead, when it comes to christmas decorations, if you can't beat them, just give up. >>> plus, a custody battle brewing over this dapper little guy. we'll have details next. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] we began serving handcrafted coffees in seattle, and people seemed to like it. so we wondered -- where else could we take this? ♪ for over 40 years, we've brought our passion for fine coffee and espresso to people everywhere. but one place was impossible, until now. our lattes, espresso and brewed coffee, now in your home from a machine like no other. and now $50 off through january 1st. the ver
. >>> the fbi says it used facebook to help track down and bust a ring of international cyber criminals that infected 11 million computers, leading to $850 million in losses. >>> and speaking of facebook, the social network has landed in the top spot in an annual employees choice survey for the best place to work. workers praised facebook's fun culture and they also apparently give large responsibilities to folks relatively early in their careers. >>> well, just...
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. >> reporter: was there a problem with communication between, say the fbi doing the investigation, cia doing some of the intelligence analysis, the state department who was responsible for some of the security. was this, again, a stove piping problem of a different kind? >> and aside from the talking points, lawmakers want definitive information on the level of premeditation by the terrorists and how early it was known. >>> the wikileaks trial will resume today and will determine if bradley manning's case will be dismissed. he claims the nine-month free trial confinent -- to punishment. he faces charges, including aiding the enemy and if convicted, he could face love in prison. >>> hillary clinton is at the final foreign nato summit. the secretary said there is an urgent need for egyptian president morsi to talk more with his opposition and relieve the volatile tension in the country and hammerd home nato's support for turkey as the alliance deployed missiles to the countries and pushed the leaders to make promises on their promises to afghanistan. >> we expect the need of an efficient
. >> reporter: was there a problem with communication between, say the fbi doing the investigation, cia doing some of the intelligence analysis, the state department who was responsible for some of the security. was this, again, a stove piping problem of a different kind? >> and aside from the talking points, lawmakers want definitive information on the level of premeditation by the terrorists and how early it was known. >>> the wikileaks trial will resume today and will...
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and the fbi left it at that. >> everyone we talk to out there swear up and down that they were going to solve the case. they didn't. >> with no happy ending, the media gave up. >> all the national media, they want the big story when they introduce me to my relatives, but until that happens, they don't want -- they're not interested in doing an article about the search. you know. actually, when you think about it, it's pretty pathetic if no one is actually looking for someone that disappeared. isn't that anyone important enough in your past life that want to look for you? >> so benjamin was stranded. with no name, no social security numb number. and no help. >> benjamin kyle, about to talk to me live along with the man who made that documentary. they are asking for your help, asking for your signature to the white house will have to act. don't miss this. it's next. rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain
and the fbi left it at that. >> everyone we talk to out there swear up and down that they were going to solve the case. they didn't. >> with no happy ending, the media gave up. >> all the national media, they want the big story when they introduce me to my relatives, but until that happens, they don't want -- they're not interested in doing an article about the search. you know. actually, when you think about it, it's pretty pathetic if no one is actually looking for someone...
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the appalling thing is the fbi without warrants digging through e-mails. >> let me stop you there. there is a sense that if you were in a monogamous relationship and there's an understanding, it's a bad thing to do. >> it is a bad thing to do, but a common thing. if the fbi can kick in your front door if you do that, a lot of people should be nervous. 40% of women and 60% of men have cheated. we talk, monogamy, we are -- we do parabond. we are not sexually monogamous. we are monkeys in shoes. the pressures of monogamy over 30, 40, 50, 60 years, the life of a marriage is unsustainable. a lot of people are unsuccessful at that. we should have not like it's an okay, free to cheat, do whatever you want, you can violate somebody, we shouldn't get a get out after jail free card, but we should have a more subtle and fresh understanding that's hard to sustain over life. some things are more important than sex in a marriage. maybe sex happens once or twice outside of the marriage later in life or over its life. we should turn a blind eye to that. to honor the more important thing, the commi
the appalling thing is the fbi without warrants digging through e-mails. >> let me stop you there. there is a sense that if you were in a monogamous relationship and there's an understanding, it's a bad thing to do. >> it is a bad thing to do, but a common thing. if the fbi can kick in your front door if you do that, a lot of people should be nervous. 40% of women and 60% of men have cheated. we talk, monogamy, we are -- we do parabond. we are not sexually monogamous. we are monkeys...